Hidden: A True Crime Podcast • 19 May 2025

What This Pastor Did Will Haunt You | Psychologist Reacts to Jeffrey Zizz

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In this episode, we delve into the chilling case of Jeffrey Zizz, a convicted child molester and former pastor, who stands accused of the brutal murder of 82-year-old Marcia Norman in Olympia, Washington. Zizz, who had been hired as Norman's handyman, allegedly bound her, tortured her with a nail gun, and buried her remains beneath a shed he constructed. We explore the disturbing details of his past crimes, and Dr. John weighs in on the risks factors of someone like Jeffrey. For the full story episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pastor-turned-sex-offender-tortures-grandmother-with/id1521619380?i=1000708422846 https://open.spotify.com/episode/5qruPrQcGvt7byJcz1LiLR?si=FVWsybgHSKeRPXLaYUka2w About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices