Combat Story • 1 February 2025

Expert CIA Analysis - Africa, China, Russia, DRC, M23 | Two CIA Legends and Case Officers Share Insights

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Today we have a fascinating discussion with two CIA legends from the Directorate of Operations: Glenn Corn and Paul Kepp. Both served for over 30 years in the government, most of that with the CIA and both served as Chiefs of Station at some of the most important posts in the world, leading from the frontlines.

Glenn brought Paul on to discuss what’s going on in Africa in terms of Russian and increasing Chinese influence, regional players like Turkey and UAE, and specifically recent flare ups in the Democratic Republic of Congo or DRC with Tutsi militia group M23 taking over Goma.

We cover what that means for the DRC, Rwanda, the people, regional players, global players, and the United States, particularly with a new administration in place.

Please enjoy this deep dive from two legends discussing a topic that both feel deserves our attention globally.

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Show Notes:

00:00 Introduction

00:48 Geopolitical Importance of Africa

02:58 Russia and China's Influence in Africa

06:17 Current Crisis in the DRC

07:11 Historical Context of the Conflict

09:02 Rwanda's Role and International Interests

16:22 US Administration's Response

24:18 Humanitarian Impact and Future Prospects

27:10 Conclusion and Final Thoughts