30 with Guyon Espiner • 23 October 2024

Sir John Kirwan

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The rugby great became the face of mental health in New Zealand, so why does he think he’s failed and what does he plan to do about it? Plus, he challenges Guyon to open up about his own health and asks if New Zealand’s macho culture has really changed.

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