What happens when a council stops looking like democracy and starts looking like intimidation? That’s where we begin today, as Duncan digs into the government’s warning to the Far North District Council and asks whether local democracy is being pushed off course.

Deputy Prime Minister David Seymour joins us to talk through the claims, the growing pressure on the government, and what happens when elected representatives say they’re being frozen out or threatened. We also get into the wider question here: who gets to make decisions in New Zealand, and how far ministers should go when councils appear to be losing control.